She suddenly seemed to be aborting and as I began to look at our goat health log AND read the reports on Cydectin, I suddenly realized that this may have been the cause of her troubles. I use prohibit, which is lavamasol. can i also use it on the kids? Donât be afraid to â¦ It's rarely more than the carrier. However, you can add Black Oil Sunflower Seeds (BOSS) to grain, beet pulp, and Diamond V yeast to try to add the weight on. i need to worm my newly nursing doe and was wondering if i could use valbazen... if so what is the dosage amount? Yes you can use it on kids, but I would not worm both at the same time. IF YOUR GOAT NEEDS DEWORMING. I remember that about the same time we started GoatWorld people were talking about copper levels in goats. I have a doe who just puts all she has into the milk bucket, and I cant keep weight on her while she is milking. If you have determined that Ivermectin is not the choice, then I would go with Cydectin sheep drench, orally. Please don't fall into the trap that if you give wormer to your goat, that in the milk is the actual wormer in enough of it's orignal form to worm, or to treat her kids or us. can you worm a nursing doe with valbazen? I know you don't do the does and kids at the same time but at what age do you think it is safe to worm a kid? Jon, with what I have read, I would only use valbazen as a last resort. you must worm it with soemthing like ivermectin, or valbazen, or cydectin.. safeguard would work in a pinch.. and may be enough to save it. I've read where some people recommend 1 cc per 25 pound of goat and I've also read where some people recommend 1 cc per 35 pound of goat. if administered 2 days in â¦ I order the Cydectin for sheep through Jeffers on-line. I have never had a problem with it. Do â¦ Add 1 day for each additional day the drug is used (e.g. I leave my does and kids together and have some several months old kids still nursing if the mom will let them. best rules of thumb is deworm your goats before breeding them and if need to be dewormed while expecting I suggest Ivomec or Safeguard. I suggest taking 6 fresh nannieberries from your goat to a vet that does fecal testing for worms. The dosage rate is very narrow and treating the mom with the correct dose could affect the kids more harshly. Goat dose: Oral Cydectin- given orally 1cc per 20-25 lbs. My vet prescribed us to give 2x the sheep dosage. Valbazan should not be used unless you know no one is pregnant. If I'm not mistaken, it does not kill tapeworms, so a person would need to use a different wormer for tapeworms. I wait until I see a reason to worm them. I worm with valbazan the day a doe kids. At 1 cc per 20 pounds. Safe-Guard/Panacur Suspension (10% or 100 mg/ml): the label dose in goats is 5 mg/kg, but a 10 mg/kg dosage is recommended. Blood and milk samples were collected from the ewes and blood samples was collected from their nursing lambs in order to determine the â¦ Please Login or Register. For goats, give twice that amount (1cc per 25#). Apparently there have been a few cases of people reporting their does suddenly aborting from this. Well since then, there has been some definite "rethinking" of copper levels in goats and I believe that the accepted and agreed upon level is somewhere around 100 ppm. Last edited: Apr â¦ One Barber pole worm alone can lay between 1,000 and 6,000 eggs per day. If you know your herd has been battling parasites you can begin worming kids as young as 2 weeks with a natural goat dewormer (chemical dewormers should be done, at the earliest, at 9 weeks of age). No dewormer "cures" a goat overnight or even really in a few days. I have used it on young juniors and bucks all the time. The dosage rate is very narrow and treating the mom with the correct dose could affect the kids more harshly. She did not abort per se (found no fetus, afterbirth or anything but blood), but her vaginal area swelled and protruded, and she started dropping a bit of blood for a few days. Just my opinion. ( Injectable Moxidectin ) Dosage is 1 ml. You can give this cattle wormer to goats orally due to the goats motabolisim being so high it works better orally. At that time if I remember correctly, the "normally accepted and agreed upon level" of copper was 5 to 7 ppm in feed. Posted by GoatWorld on January 14, 2001 at 10:55:15: Okay I've got a question/observation here... Over the last couple of months, I've been reading some different posts and information about using Cydectin pour on for cattle as a wormer - orally on goats. of body as outlined on the manufacturers label. Just my opinion. You can get a Generic Ivermectin injectable from Jeffers Livestock.com . I will not worm a doe and a small nursing kid at the same time with any wormer. We originally thought that this may have been a prolapse but it wasn't. I'm more inclined to use it 1 cc per 25 pounds because this is what most people have reported as the effective dosage. The dosage of cydectin is 0.4mg/kg orally for a single dose. I will usually get some fecals done when they are around 2 months old if I start seeing the kids getting a little bellied or rough coated. Especially in an expecting doe. This just shows you how useful it is for us all to discuss any type of wormers, vitamins, minerals, feed supplements, etc. So I first worm one then about a week later worm the other. You give valbazen right after kidding because you know they aren't pregnant at that moment, humans aren't immediately using the milk, and it covers more than Ivermectin. Check dose rates and equipment before drenching. we give our goats. if give to much cydenctin you sure to have dead kids or kill both mum and kid. i am told in my area by reputable breeders that goat wormer here isnt good enough. Some does are just thin when they are milking. Can cause birth defects and death. But the topic that seems to be surfacing recently is use of Cydectin on pregnant does within the last month of their pregnancy. If you don't have it, then wait on it. I was wondering if i can use Dectomax as a viable wormer for my goats? There are many types of worms, your med needs to be specific to the type of worm you have IF you have a wormy goat. Source: Southern Consortium for Small Ruminant Parasite Control (SCSRPC) - wormx.org Give 1 ½-2 times the sheep or cattle dose. so it must be somewhat safe ?Someone correct me if I am wrong please. Valbazen was taken off the listed uses just a few years ago, probably due to misuse. i would never use Cydectin on does that are expecting. I don't know if any of you remember our pregnant doe Pepper. For cydectin, (yes, you give this orally too) give sheep the cattle dose (1cc per 50#). GOAT RAMBLINGS. I had given her 5 cc's of Cydectin orally three days before the trouble began. I dont have a problem with worms so I can wait to deworm. Per my vet, you can use the pour on for cattle as an oral for goats at 1ml per 20lbs of body weight. Needless to say, we had a vet at the ready just in case. I do the same as Brandywine with the same results except I use iver when breeding and prego only because I have had better luck with iver than cydectin in my area , I have also gone as high as 1 ml per 10 lb on wethers with known tapeworm problems with no known problems from the goats they were about 50lb at the time and I did not take them off feed as I usually do when worming. The reason im asking is i need to worm them and i dont have $75.00 for wormer that treats lung worm. The dosage rate is very narrow and treating the mom with the correct dose could affect the kids more harshly. Ive got 2 lactating does 1 buck and 3 wethers. Subcutaneous injection can cause transient local tissue reaction that may result in trim loss of edible tissue at slaughter if animals are slaughtered within 35 days after treatment. If you donât have a problem with parasites, and you keep a close eye on your herd, you can â¦ Who turned on the eletric fence without telling me? ALL goats *will* have worms, wether or not you find eggs - there are many life stages that are not producing eggs. CYDECTIN Injectable has been formulated specifically for subcutaneous injection in cattle and should not be given by other routes of administration. And of course a goat will not just have one worm. Modern wormers are extremely safe (except levamisole). However, it is still OK to administer moxidectin orally to goats (just not preferred). We use Cydectin for our goats. If you have determined that Ivermectin is not the choice, then I would go with Cydectin sheep drench, orally. Jon. Just my opinion. Last time my vet was out (and yes, he DOES make house calls for goats), he checked their eyelids and gums and said he believes I've finally gotten through my "worm problem" that I had when using Safeguard. It will get tapes and some that cydectin will not get. Even after that a goat can stil decline. However, the infections may develop resistance to cydectin if overused due to its similarity to ivermectin. (You may comment on the copper portion of this post too if you wish). per 110 lbs of goat. ADMINISTRATION: CYDECTIN Oral Drench is ready-to-use. But if an individual has a personal preference to administer moxidectin orally to goats, then the sheep oral drench at a 2X dose (0.18 mg/lb; 0.4 mg/kg) should be given. Please note that the dosages for goats is sometimes much more than what it says on the label, if you underdose, you are wasting the wormer and helping the worms to build up resistance. I am always leary at how much might go to the milk. I use it on my nursing does although my vet gave me a differant dosage rate (4 cc per 100). Cydectin is good but expensive. with what I have read, I would only use valbazen as a last resort. They kill the worms, that is all. Should not be used in the first tri-mester of pregnancy, in case your doe has bred back. Re: Cydectin - Not good to use on a pregnant doe?. At 10 mg/kg, withdrawal time is 16 days meat and 4 days for milk. I too have noticed less worms in fecal counts at that rate. Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. So I'm curious to hear what some of you have experienced with using Cydectin, the dosages you are using and if you have had the same reaction as did Pepper. Especially in an expecting doe. The cydectin goat wormers can kill the ivermectin-resistant worms. And as a follow up on Pepper, she is doing fine and has no apparent problems thus far. Administer 1 mL per 11 lb (1 mL per 5 kg) body weight into the mouth of the sheep, using any standard drenching equipment. Always weigh your goat before administering any wormer and make sure to give the correct does for the weight of the goat. She suddenly seemed to be aborting and as I began to look at our goat health log AND read the reports on Cydectin, I suddenly realized that this may have been the cause of her troubles. This article will cover a variety of subjects which keep coming up, making it clear to this writer that goat producers lack essential information on the topics. I use 1 cc per 20 pounds. Give all wormers orally to sheep and goats. I don't know if any of you remember our pregnant doe Pepper. Welcome Guest. I had given her 5 cc's of Cydectin â¦ Then when I get ready to breed will use cydectin until kidding if I need to worm. Quest Equine Wormer - Is 4 times stronger per ml. Remove the needle after drawing from the bottle and shoot right in the mouth. than Cydectin. X#! You might want to wait a couple of weeks to see if she is better. Just don't give to any goat that has any possibility of being pregnant, nor give it to a doe if you are using the milk for humans. If you have determined that Ivermectin is not the choice, then I would go with Cydectin sheep drench, orally. Do not overdose. for coccidiosis.. give it albon at the rate of 3cc's per 10 pounds of body weight for the FIRST DAY .. then for the other 4 days give it 1 cc per 10 pounds.. If drenches are misused and result in chemical residues in goat meat and milk products that exceed the Maximum Residue Limits, Australiaâs valuable goat-export markets can be jeopardised. Works well on barber pole worm which is what would be causing the anemia you are seeing in their eye checks. Cydectin and Ivermectin are in the same class of dewormers. Ranch Granny raising and showing Nigerian Dwarf Goats, RH Farms Boer, Nubian, LaMancha Goats Suffolk cross & Dorper Sheep. I just started using this wormer this past fall could that be why it worked at such a low dosage?? Ewes on trial were dosed Cydectin orally at 1cc/11lbs. Especially in an expecting doe.
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